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[NSW] RTA Traffic Emergency Patrol

Postby dazla » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:02 am

Hey all,

I have heard that the RTA Traffic Emergency Patol in NSW have lights and sirens on there patrol vans and respond under emgergency conditions like the firies etc.

What is the go with this and do you have any pics of these guys rich, what is your knowledge.

We have similar service here n WA but they dong have red/blue lights or sirens, ive heard they are modelling on the NSW RTA system and its in the pipeline to have them as emergency response.

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Postby Richmeister » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:27 am

AFAIK the RTA TEP units that operate on the freeways around Sydney have the red/blue lights and sirens, and they use them for responding to crashes and the like. I don't think they have any rescue gear, their primary role at the scene (initially at least) is to direct traffic. They have the lights and sirens to get on scene quickly so the Highway Patrol can, well I don't know what the HWP do when the RTA are doing traffic control...

Here's a photo of a van I took in December 2003:
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Hopefully one of our NSW members can give some more details.
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Postby dazla » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:35 am

I would think that once a TEP crew is doing traffic control the HWP can commence their crash investigation.
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Postby Richmeister » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:24 pm

Managed to grab this shot of a CityLink emergency response vehicle in Melbourne. The CityLink vehicles have yellow and white lights.

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Postby dazla » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:00 pm

Do you have a clearer pic mate, is there a car in that pic somwhere?
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Postby Richmeister » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:26 pm

Sorry, that was the best I could do. I'll try for a better one next time I'm in Melbourne.
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Postby Damo » Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:32 pm

[b]Dazla.

We also have RTA Holden Crewmans here. And no RTA vehicle is fitted out with red and blue lights. They have magnetta lights. Lol, not much difference but they arnt allowed red and blues. They do weighing of trucks and controlling of crashes. Go to the online scanner at http://www.scannsw.aesvn.org/online.htm and there is an RTA station over that. All they do is report accidents and get heavy vehicle checks. They can pull over trucks but cant pull over cars. They expedite to crashes etc but they cant pursue. Hope that helps mate.

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Postby Richmeister » Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:10 pm

You'd better be wary of Stevo yourself mate!
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Postby Crowls » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:27 pm

The RTA Ocscar crews in NSW are fitted with both Blue/Red lights and sirens. The use of the sirens is allowed when these vehicles need to make their way through traffic to attend an accident. They are not allowed to exceed the speed limit while using the sirens. Basically, they get as close as they can to the accident under normal conditions, and once they become stationary in traffic because of the accident, they can utilise the lights and sirens to get to the accident site.


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Postby dazla » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:17 pm

Hey Damo,

I was refering to the TEP crews but thats cool. I am an Inspector in WA and we to have Magenta lights, we have a yelp but no siren. We only use the welp to get drivers attention to stop. We can stop cars and trucks but concertrate on trucks and let the police deal with the cars.

Our funtion was carried out by the WA Police up until 1994 when the Dept of Transport took over. We carry out investigations into offences and gather evidence to prefer charges etc. Mainly for breaches of the Road Traffic Act and Main Roads Permits, we also enforce OHS issues and legislation such as Fatigue Management.

I think it is great experiance before joining the WA Police (hopefully).

And I think Stevo is ok. :)

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Postby Hwy612 » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:46 am

Sounds like our Vic Roads TSS. We play with them every now and then on truck days. They don't mind us giving the trucks a tickle on our own either. :D but the truckies prefer to deal with the TMU instead of the TSS :wink:
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Postby dazla » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:47 pm

I have got some great pics of the RTA TEP vehicles.

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Postby dazla » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:28 am

Yea some truckies get a bit nervous when the coppers are around. Some of them like the fact that inspectors are not Police and therefore dont care what crim record they have got.

Any NSW members, from looking at the pics above it would appear that these are emergency vehicles as in the same as Firies etc. Are they allowed to speed etc.
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Postby Danny » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:27 am

A couple of years ago when I was in Sydney there was a serious MVA in George St (main street of Sydney) A RTA TEP van Come flying up the street under Lights and sirens I did get a pic but its on film I will try to Scan it and post it later.....

A couple of the RTA rodeo's that patrol the F3 Freeway and the Golden hwy near Newcastle have Blue and reds Strobes in the rear window and a Clear led bar on the rear canopy (cant remember what brand).. Will try to get some pics.

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Postby Crowls » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:49 pm

The RTA TEPvehicles are not allowed to exceed the speed, even when using lights and sirens.

There are numerous RTA vehicles that have the blue and red strobes in the rear windows. They also have a message board in the rear window between the strobes.


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Postby wat? » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:44 pm

Citylink operates emergency response vehicles that are similar to Vicroads. Vicroads has a decent size fleet of emergency vehicles. All are fitted with amber light bars in various shapes and forms (you would have a field day Richey if you saw the fleet! Your light and car fetish would be taken to a new level haha)

TSS operates mainly unmarked vehicles in Vic fitted with magenta lights... very nice set up inside with radars and alike! They have a few TSS marked vehicles with markings similar to the SMART cars (obviously different colours and lights).
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Postby Richmeister » Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:58 pm

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One of these days I'll get a non-blurry photo of one...
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Postby dazla » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:06 am

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This is one of our patrol cars, we have two unmarked cars as well. What do the TSS have radars for?.
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Postby Richmeister » Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:21 am

AFAIK, the TSS have radar for heavy vehicle speed enforcement.


wat? wrote:(you would have a field day Richey if you saw the fleet! Your light and car fetish would be taken to a new level haha)
Oh shut up ;)
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Postby dazla » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:16 am

We have a similar service provided by MainRoads called Highway Emergency Responce Operatons, they basically patrol around the road network and assist with any traffic congestion or accidents. They are dispatched by the Traffic Operations Centre.
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Postby will » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:22 pm

In New Zealand everything to do with traffic control/enforcement is done by the police with the exception of control at road works and escorting of large loads, which are done by private comapnies.

The police have a comercial vehicle investigation unit who use mainly unmarked vehicles to enforce heavy truck laws. Mostly staffred by police though there are a few mecahanics employed to do checks at weighbridges.
The Auckland Motorway Police use about a dozen civilian traffic cops to help with traffic control on the motorway. They drive regular Police patrol vehicles and wear a simialr uniform to Police.

All other traffic enforcement is done by Police, except for a few airports which have their own traffic cops.
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Postby Richmeister » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:28 pm

What powers if any do the MSO's have Will?
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Postby will » Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:34 pm

They have a traffic enforcement warrant. It means they can stop motorists, require them to give names and details, issue tickets and enforce the drunk driving laws. I think they also have powers of arrest in related matters, they can arrest for refusing to give details or refusing to accompany after failing a breath test. That was the case with traffic officers before the merger, and I think these are the same.
The MSOs actually desended form the Harbour Bridge Tollway officers, who just patrolled the Auckalnd Harbour bridge. They only work in Auckland, and only about a dozen of them. But apparently very usefull at accidents and other traffic problems.
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Postby VEHENQ » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:42 pm

Crowls wrote:The RTA Ocscar crews in NSW are fitted with both Blue/Red lights and sirens. The use of the sirens is allowed when these vehicles need to make their way through traffic to attend an accident. ...they get as close as they can to the accident under normal conditions, and once they become stationary in traffic because of the accident, they can utilise the lights and sirens to get to the accident site.


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Postby Slattery » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:32 pm

What about Qld, they have designated traffic patrol officers who hold the stop/go/slow signs in broadbrim hats, lol.
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Postby will » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:04 am

Slattery wrote:What about Qld, they have designated traffic patrol officers who hold the stop/go/slow signs in broadbrim hats, lol.


Don't knock them, thats a higly skilled and responsible job. Did you know those signs actually have different wording on each side, and there is only one right way up but several worng ways? And if they fail to co-ordinate between two of them they could cause a major accident. :lol:
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